View Full Version : The New President!
Mayestril
01-21-2009, 02:14 AM
I think this topic should exist~
So how do All ya Americans feel now?
What about the ceremony?
Any more thoughts?
I loved that symphony that they played. It was marvellous!
RikusHaven
01-21-2009, 07:00 AM
I hope he is a real good president, and that he makes some great accomplishments. So far, he seems to be an improvement over Bush. Now, let's just see what he does and how well he does it. I'm generally exited though. He had a nice speech and the ceremony was okay ^-^.
Mourn
01-21-2009, 11:07 AM
Oh boy, do I hate politics. Lets see here.....All right! Here's my stand:
Originally, I was a McCain supporter (though it doesn't matter much because I'm not old enough to vote...). However, Obama won the election so shucks to that idea. I eventually got over it, since there wasn't enything I could do about it aside from shaving my head or getting a Swastica (I KNOW I spelt that wrong), but I don't think that they like Asians much...besides, I would sooner kill them. Anyways, on to the ceremonies. I found it kind of "odd" that nearly every African-American of semi-high standing had to preform for him, not to mention all the other celebs "Kissing Obama's---" as several around me have stated. I've noticed that more African-Americans and people of color are getting appointed by Obama. I don't really care as long as they're the best qualified and do a good job, but theres an annoying ticking in the back of my head that wants to say "favoritism," despite my best attempts to ignore it. And the last thing is more of a prediction: I see racial "crimes" going up in the next year. Not just hate groups beating others to death, but more people of color suing white people for any reason under the sun because they think they can get away with it. They most likely won't, but I would hate to work in a courtroom now. That's my "little" speil, I didn't want to offend anyone (unless you're a Nazi or racist skinhead.....or PETA) and I hope you don't hate me for my views.
Shiki
01-21-2009, 12:00 PM
Hoping he delivers on his claims. We know from his speeches he is able to memorize and recite speeches very well, far better than Bush was capable of doing, which is already a great thing. I don't think we will be seeing Obama make such memorable statements as, "I'm telling you there's an enemy that would like to attack America, Americans, again. There just is. That's the reality of the world. And I wish him all the very best."
Of course, these four years are going to be entirely spent on healing the economy, dealing with that fiasco we call a war, repairing our international relations, and maybe if there is enough time, things like health care. And if he falters even a little, you better believe there will be people saying he is incapable of doing it simply because of the pigment of his skin. I have friends who would throw a violent fit if accused of racism, but on the same breath, say that Obama's actions are going to positively or negatively reflect the entire black population in this country. It's quite a lot of pressure to not only be the leader of this nation, but the poster child for your race. All the same, I sincerely hope everything goes well for him.
Arimi
01-21-2009, 12:27 PM
I hope he is as great as everyone makes him out to be.
I hope people aren't blinded by his charisma and will actually notice what he is doing.
Most of all I hope the black community realizes he is white too... this isn't the complete step forward they really think they are getting. They seem to forget his mom is white, and it was his WHITE family that raised him. Not trying to sound racist, but you are really getting a white guy in black skin... of course we really all arre the same.. but since everyone keeps playing the race card I thought I would put that out there.
All in all, as I said before... I hope he really is as great as everyone is saying he is.
oldwrench
01-21-2009, 01:29 PM
I sincerely wish the est for Obama. I have never been a Democrat, and wasn't in his camp, but he is our elected leader, so God be with him. I have had reservations about his experience, he has had little time in government to learn how things work. This could be a bad thing..... but then, it might be his best point. He has energy and charisma, these things are necessary for a good leader. The most crucial thing will be the people he surrounds himself with. Time will tell if he is up to the challenges or not.
As for race.... It's just interesting that the ones who have made the biggest noise about how race doesn't matter, the color of skin should make no difference, we're all the same,.... are now making a big issue of it.
Vashnik
01-22-2009, 01:34 AM
I voted for McCain, so I was pretty disappointed when Obama won.
I don't really support Obama for the fact that he will ruin the economy, not help it. He wants to tax the corporations, but it's going to cause the corporations to pack-up and leave because they no longer can make a profit. When the corporations leave, jobs will be lost. When jobs are lost, more money is spent for the unemployed citizens who lost their jobs. Those who lost their jobs are now looking for jobs and with less jobs, the chances of getting a job have now decreased. Corporations that make a lot of money is what drives the base of the economy. People earning that money from those profiting companies dump money into the economy by buying stuff, even if they don't need something, the people wasting that money is still putting money into the economy. So essentially, if he implements that tax for people making $150,000 (including small business that make that much), he will destroy the economy and it could end up causing the United States to become a third world country if it continues. Not only could he destroy the economy, but I don't remember him saluting the American flag nor has he served any time in the military, so his ability to command all branches of the military is very low and the political 4-Star Generals of each branch will practically have to hold his hand while we are still "at war" or at least while our military is mobilized in foreign soil. Asking a veteran to obey a president who doesn't salute the American flag is like commanding them to jump off a bridge. They don't want to do it, but since he is the leader, they have to or else the veterans who refuse are "kicked" from the military.
On another note, Obama has a dumb VP in his office and should Obama be assassinated for whatever reason by extremists, that stupid VP who can't get his history right will be the next in line to lead the United States. When he does, we will be in serious trouble. Since he doesn't remember history correctly, we are doomed to repeat the dreadful history. Had Obama dropped the VP and got a competent one to run with him, these 4 years might not be so bad. But the way I see it, I'd be surprised if either one lives without an extremist killing someone.
It's great to see America accepting African-Americans as possible presidents, but Obama should not have been the one with his idea to fix the economy and his chosen VP.
Mourn
01-22-2009, 11:31 AM
I voted for McCain, so I was pretty disappointed when Obama won.
I don't really support Obama for the fact that he will ruin the economy, not help it. He wants to tax the corporations, but it's going to cause the corporations to pack-up and leave because they no longer can make a profit. When the corporations leave, jobs will be lost. When jobs are lost, more money is spent for the unemployed citizens who lost their jobs. Those who lost their jobs are now looking for jobs and with less jobs, the chances of getting a job have now decreased. Corporations that make a lot of money is what drives the base of the economy. People earning that money from those profiting companies dump money into the economy by buying stuff, even if they don't need something, the people wasting that money is still putting money into the economy. So essentially, if he implements that tax for people making $150,000 (including small business that make that much), he will destroy the economy and it could end up causing the United States to become a third world country if it continues. Not only could he destroy the economy, but I don't remember him saluting the American flag nor has he served any time in the military, so his ability to command all branches of the military is very low and the political 4-Star Generals of each branch will practically have to hold his hand while we are still "at war" or at least while our military is mobilized in foreign soil. Asking a veteran to obey a president who doesn't salute the American flag is like commanding them to jump off a bridge. They don't want to do it, but since he is the leader, they have to or else the veterans who refuse are "kicked" from the military.
On another note, Obama has a dumb VP in his office and should Obama be assassinated for whatever reason by extremists, that stupid VP who can't get his history right will be the next in line to lead the United States. When he does, we will be in serious trouble. Since he doesn't remember history correctly, we are doomed to repeat the dreadful history. Had Obama dropped the VP and got a competent one to run with him, these 4 years might not be so bad. But the way I see it, I'd be surprised if either one lives without an extremist killing someone.
It's great to see America accepting African-Americans as possible presidents, but Obama should not have been the one with his idea to fix the economy and his chosen VP.
I doubt it would come to that, but I see where you come from.
NinjaJoshy
01-22-2009, 06:21 PM
I am a strong Obama supporter, but not because he's black, but because of what he has been prmoising. I am actually getting sick and tired of hearing about him being black, and how this is a step forward for black people. Granted I think it's important, but when it comes to being the president, it should be the best man qualified, regardless of what color he is. People need to get over him being black (or half black/white) and need to start paying more attention to his ideals, and his policies.
Icy Garnet
01-23-2009, 03:40 PM
It's great to see America accepting African-Americans as possible presidents, but Obama should not have been the one with his idea to fix the economy and his chosen VP.
This made me LOL because, I think of McCain's VP, Palin, and I LOL again.
I'd take Biden over Palin anytime, anyday. He is extremely knowledgeable, and on that fact alone far surpasses Palin. Ok so he doesn't have a nice rack of cute glasses, and i'm sure that makes all the difference in the world to some people, but comeon...
This election was a joke, the winner was crystal clear right from the beginning. McCain is smart, but not that smart. He picked Palin in hopes to boost his rankings and increase his potencial voters. Too bad he didn't tell her to keep her mouth shut, since everything she's ever said was laughable.
Oh well, I really don't like politics, not like I can vote anyway either (Canadian), but since I am living in the states, I follow up on it. I'm content with our President, and just hope he delivers, and isn't all talk.
Mourn
01-26-2009, 11:09 AM
I'm just glad that Clinton didn't win. I mean, come on! She's such a joke! "Sniper fire," really? I bet she wouldn't know a sniper rifle if I whiped the stock across her face. Besides, she's too unimportant and downright stupid-funny to kill.
On a more serious note, however, is the fact that she is now Secretary of State. This really worries me, mainly because most presidents were previously the Secreatary of State, and I don't want her running the show. Her appointing those two new ambassadors to the Middle East is just a way of thanking her fellow Democrats: Ambassadors=Big Paychecks. I hope they do something stupid like show them the soles of their shoes of wave with their left hands. I just hope that doing those stupid stunts doesn't start a war.
I did not mean to offend anyone with this post (unless you're Hillary Clinton), be you Republican or Democrat. And I especially didn't want to offend women, that would be a bad move. As the saying goes "Hell hath no fury like a women's scorn."
NinjaJoshy
01-26-2009, 12:00 PM
I did not care much for hillary clinton. She seemed too fake to me, like she would do anything to become president. I'm not sure how I feel about her becomming secretary of state though, we shall have to wait and see how it turns out.
Arimi
01-26-2009, 04:31 PM
Barack Obama inauguration: this Emperor has no clothes, it will all end in tears
Author: Gerald Warner of Telegraph.co.uk
This will end in tears. The Obama hysteria is not merely embarrassing to witness, it is itself contributory to the scale of the disaster that is coming. What we are experiencing, in the deepening days of a global depression, is the desperate suspension of disbelief by people of intelligence - la trahison des clercs - in a pathetic effort to hypnotise themselves into the delusion that it will be all right on the night. It will not be all right.
We have been here before. In the spring of 1997, to be precise, when a charismatic, young prime minister entered Downing Street, cheered by children bussed in for the occasion waving plastic Union Jacks. A very few of us at that time incurred searing reproaches for denouncing the Great Charlatan (as I have always denominated Tony Blair) and dissenting from the public hysteria. Three times a deluded Britain elected that transparent fraud. Yesterday, when national bankruptcy became a formal reality, we reaped the bitter harvest of the Blair/Brown imposture.
The burnt child, contrary to conventional wisdom, does not fear the fire. After the Blair experience there is no excuse for anybody in Britain falling for Obama. Yet today, in this country, even some of those who remained sane during the emotional spasm of the Diana aberration are pumping the air for Princess Barack. At a time of gross economic and geopolitical instability throughout the Western world, this is beyond irresponsibility.
To anyone who kept his head, the string of Christmas cracker mottoes booming through the public address system on Washington's National Mall can only excite scepticism. It is crucial to recall the reality that lies behind the rhetoric. Denouncing "those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents" comes ill from a man whose flagship legislation, the Freedom of Choice Act, will impose abortion, including partial-birth abortion, on every state in the Union. It seems the era of Hope is to be inaugurated with a slaughter of the innocents.
Obama's American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan is like one of those toxic packages traded by bankers: it camouflages many unaffordable gifts to his client state. With a federal deficit already at $1.2 trillion, Obama wants to squander $825 billion (which will undoubtedly mushroom to more than $1 trillion) on creating 600,000 more government jobs and a further 459,000 in "green energy" (useless wind turbines and other Heath-Robinson contraptions favoured by Beltway environmentalists).
It is frightening to think there is a real possibility that the entire world economy could go into complete meltdown and famine kill millions. Yet Western - and British - commentators are cocooned in a warm comfort zone of infatuation with America's answer to Neil Kinnock. We should be long past applauding politicians of any hue: they got us into this mess. The best deserve a probationary opportunity to prove themselves, the worst should be in jail.
It is questionable whether the present political system can survive the coming crisis. Whatever the solution, teenage swooning sentimentality over a celebrity cult has no part in it. The most powerful nation on earth is confronting its worst economic crisis under the leadership of its most extremely liberal politician, who has virtually no experience of federal politics. That is not an opportunity but a catastrophe.
These are frank, even ungracious, words: they have the one merit that, unlike almost everything else written today about Obama, they will not require to be eaten in the future.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/gerald_warner/blog/2009/01/20/barack_obama_inauguration_this_emperor_has_no_clot hes_it_will_all_end_in_tears
Mourn
01-27-2009, 10:24 AM
Well said.
Lady Subaru
01-28-2009, 05:15 AM
Im still kind of unsure about him, but I think some of the things hes said are really good, as long as they acctuall happen. Though I have to say that Im getting teird of hearing about him, I know its a huge moment and hes the new president, and I think that most people are happy that Bush is out but dang, you turn on the tv and radio and he seems to always pop up. And while I agree that him being the first black (half white or whatever) president is a huge thing, I dont think it makes him as great of a president as people seem to think it does, his polotics will do that. Depending on how good he really is.
Shungo/Kite
01-28-2009, 05:30 AM
All I know is his little girl is a smart butt! When at the Lincon momorial he explained what he did that made him great (freeing the slaves), her reply "How we doing on that?"
Mourn
01-28-2009, 10:53 AM
I was in class and rather busy during the inaguration, so I didn't watch that (also, all the celebrities kissing his *** didn't entertain me). Did she really say that? Wow, if I said something like that, well 1)it would be in better taste, and 2)I would be punished severely.
And to go with what Lady Subaru said: Yeah, the fact is that people are blinded by his charisma and the color of his skin. The furvor surrounding his election to the title of president is clouding the people's minds. What they don't realize or don't want to realize is that their minds are clouded. As long as people are making such a big deal out of him, he'll be able to do nearly whatever they want. And with the Democratic party controling Congress there won't be as much resisatnce to ideas that really are bad.
I believe that as our president it is our duty as Americans (sorry to you non-Americans, but you know...) to support him, but not to grovel and accept everything he says. He's a president, not a king. I want to believe that he wants to do what's best for the country, but in my experience Chicago Democrats have a tendency to be crooks. We'll just have to see how this plays out.
As always, I don't mean to offend anyone with my personal views. If you are offended, please PM me and I'll stop.
Shiki
01-28-2009, 02:46 PM
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/gerald_warner/blog/2009/01/20/barack_obama_inauguration_this_emperor_has_no_clot hes_it_will_all_end_in_tears
This is either some European humor similar to Jonathan Swift, someone trying far too hard to be "edgy", or a good ol' boy who is seething inside with rage over the audacity of not choosing Dying Old Man/Hockey Mom as our dynamic duo.
Denouncing "those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents" comes ill from a man whose flagship legislation, the Freedom of Choice Act, will impose abortion, including partial-birth abortion, on every state in the Union. It seems the era of Hope is to be inaugurated with a slaughter of the innocents.
"Impose"? Give me a break.
im·pose (m-pz)
v. im·posed, im·pos·ing, im·pos·es
v.tr.
1. To establish or apply as compulsory; levy: impose a tax.
2. To apply or make prevail by or as if by authority: impose a peace settlement.
3. To obtrude or force (oneself, for example) on another or others.
4. Printing To arrange (type or plates) on an imposing stone.
5. To offer or circulate fraudulently; pass off: imposed a fraud on consumers.
v.intr.
To take unfair advantage: You are always imposing on their generosity.
Is he seriously suggesting that abortion is being thrust down the throats of Americans, that now thanks to this law, doctors are telling expecting mothers, "You know, you're only in your second trimester, it's not too late to off the little parasite!"
It's astounding to me that someone who seems to try to pass himself off as an intellectual would make the claim that abortion is similar to genocide and terrorism. And to use the term slaughter no less, it is a slap in the face to anyone with more than two neurons firing off in their skull.
NinjaJoshy
01-28-2009, 07:10 PM
This is either some European humor similar to Jonathan Swift, someone trying far too hard to be "edgy", or a good ol' boy who is seething inside with rage over the audacity of not choosing Dying Old Man/Hockey Mom as our dynamic duo.
"Impose"? Give me a break.
Is he seriously suggesting that abortion is being thrust down the throats of Americans, that now thanks to this law, doctors are telling expecting mothers, "You know, you're only in your second trimester, it's not too late to off the little parasite!"
It's astounding to me that someone who seems to try to pass himself off as an intellectual would make the claim that abortion is similar to genocide and terrorism. And to use the term slaughter no less, it is a slap in the face to anyone with more than two neurons firing off in their skull.
Agree with you completely. I would also like to point out that his referring to "gree" technology as "useless", especially when talking about PROVEN and EFFICIENT wind turbines also serves to discredit his argument.
I'm not sure where to stick this guy because the views that come across from this article swing from far left to far right. Either this is a satire on points of view found today, or this guy has a problem making up his mind.
Mourn
01-29-2009, 11:08 AM
Agree with you completely. I would also like to point out that his referring to "gree" technology as "useless", especially when talking about PROVEN and EFFICIENT wind turbines also serves to discredit his argument.
I'm not sure where to stick this guy because the views that come across from this article swing from far left to far right. Either this is a satire on points of view found today, or this guy has a problem making up his mind.
Both, maybe.
And Shiki, some of those lines you used were pretty good:
"anyone with more than two neurons firing off in their skull" was a good one. Gotta' write that one down.
Purplepeanutbutter
03-01-2009, 04:51 PM
i didn reli follow this all iv heard recently is about the war and trying to get all the forces out which i doubt but may be proved wrong. politics is boring tho -- they tried to teach sum 2 us in skl in citizenship but evry1 just ignored it lol. during the ceremony i was playing basketball but apparently loadsa ppl turned up to watch it i heard the streets were crowded loads of people were talkin bout it the nxt day in registration, but after about a day evryone just forgot it even happened, i havn herd the name obama in ages...
Mourn
03-02-2009, 10:56 AM
I haven't heard about President Obama since his address to Congress, but then again I haven't really been all that attentive about it. As for all of those people at the inoguration, a friend of mine half-jokingly asked me this: "How come 40,000 [black] people can get to D.C. in a day while only 4,000 can get out of New Orleans with 4 days advance warning?" It may have been a joke, but it's also a pretty good question.
Purplepeanutbutter
03-02-2009, 02:11 PM
yer but that's difrent, thats leavin ur home and possessions behind, and its a completely difrent situation, one of desperation and for some people, little choice. The ceremony thing was a time of hope, and many people wanted to treat it like one, so the two events cant b compared as they are so different.
HavenSeeker
11-18-2009, 05:36 PM
I have to say I don't like Obama. I was in McCain's camp to the end, but I always like to give people a chance to prove themselves. So far, Obama has severely disappointed me. He's attacked a news station because they speak out against his policies (where's “freedom of the press” in that?) He's appointed many communist, socialist, and radical people to positions of power that I don't like at all, including all his "Czars." He's promised to remove all our soldiers from a war that we haven't won yet, while our enemies are still out there, oppressing the weak and committing acts of murder. He called an entire police department stupid, without even listening to their side of the story (good way to ease racial tensions—find racism in places it doesn’t exist, and call people who teach diversity classes in the workplace and protect us from harm everyday racists).
Basically, I fear for America’s future freedom. Of course, with a statement like that, you may think of me as “one of those crazy Red Neck, Conspiracy Theorist, Crazy people,” but I assure you that I am completely sane and civilized. The thing is, a passive destruction of our freedom is more frightening than a sudden one. Small things, like the attempt to attack Fox News (which seems to have failed btw) will add up to bigger things—like a snowball effect. If actions aren’t taken, we could very well wake up in a commie country. I believe that every small effort by the government to limit our freedoms—Conservative or Liberal—should be countered with full force.
I gave him his chance. He's wasted it--many times over.
oldwrench
11-19-2009, 05:41 PM
So far, Obama has lived down to my worst expectations. If his administration gets control of the medical industry, things could get much worse. People who question the constitutional legality of many of these policies are being systematicly shut up.
Soukae
11-19-2009, 07:49 PM
So far, Obama has lived down to my worst expectations. If his administration gets control of the medical industry, things could get much worse. People who question the constitutional legality of many of these policies are being systematicly shut up.
You noticed this as well huh? Guess it's pretty obvious though I'll admit that much.
Purplepeanutbutter
12-04-2009, 05:24 PM
Huh, you people complain about Obama and look who the UK have - Gordon Brown. Seriously who's in deeper water? We have a completely useless leader and the probable outcome of the next election in going to be tori. In my opinion the day the conservatives get voted back in here will be a sorry day for Britain.
Besides we have an NHS and it works pretty well.. meh, I'd be fine with swopping and getting Obama instead of Brown or Cameron anyday! You people are lucky!
ShinobiRAGE
12-04-2009, 08:51 PM
Well purple, I don't look at much current events, only when i get a newspaper when on my way to school. It doesn't say much or anything about the UK since it is a free newspaper. So sorry purple. I don't know about the others here, maybe the same.
Ainrev
12-21-2009, 04:10 AM
First, I apologize. I must vent. http://dothackportal.com/forums/images/smilies2/mad.png
If I think Obama won the election because he is black, that does NOT make me racist (yeah, and he has a snakes tongue too)!!! If another one of these news programs call me racist I'm gonna have to injure a few hundred of the fellow whiteys.
One of the many things he should be impeached for is his "Equality Meetings." Or these town meetings he keeps saying are for debate. If nobody noticed, I didn't hear one 'Booooo'. You know why? Because they weren't allowed in! And if they faked in, they were immediately taken outside or away. I never tried to go to one because they would of had to shoot me! I am P.O.'d. http://dothackportal.com/forums/images/smilies2/mad.png
He's spending money we don't have! He should of dumped the entire credit system! No other country uses the credit system, and it's the reason we are in the crap we are in; people spending money they don't have.
First chance I get for a job and house overseas, I'm onna boat.
Already can speak decent Japanese...
Mourn
12-23-2009, 07:13 PM
Yeah, I'm getting really tired of the Federal Deficit. We could completely eliminate it if we wanted to, but we're too busy looking at different things, or we're too focused on the issue in the foreground and not the mounting costs in the background.
Think of it this way: there are hundreds, if not thousands of federally-supported social programs out there. A good one-third are probably defunct or redundant, but they're still getting the funding. Do away with the useless funding. There are a bunch of things out there like unimployment and such that are much too lax. A point of shame here: my mom has been on unimployment for the last year. She isn't really looking for a job, she gets more from unimployment than she would working. But as long as she fills out her job-search log Uncle Sam doesn't mind. So we're blowing unknown amounts of money on people like my mom. Granted, she foreign (which I butchered) and her thinking is a little off because of it, but still. If we wanted to we could tighten up things like that.
Don't doubt for a second that we couldn't do something. This is America (or at least it is where I'm sitting), we can do anything if we set our minds to it. As Obama said: "Yes we can!"
...Ha ha ha, irony.
oldwrench
12-24-2009, 05:19 PM
The biggest problem with our Democratic controled government is, they think they should have control over everything. They plan to spend 1.2 trillion dollars over the next 10 years to give us less health care, all to insure less than 10% of the population, more than half of which have stated that they don't want health insurance. They also are going to force everyone to buy health care, handing out very large fines if you don't. This also is unconstitutional. They are going to force the private business of health insurance to cover everyone, whether it is a major risk or not, this is not how insurance works.
It would cost far less if the government would just buy or self insure those who want insurance but don't have it. Oh, wait, with medicaid, we have been doing that all along. This is not health care reform, it is not going to lower the cost of health care, it is just another attempt by the Obama government to take control of private industry.............. Can we say socialism.........
Ainrev
12-25-2009, 03:31 AM
Unfortunately, I learned recently that the bill of rights and the constitution are expired documents... basically, if the country decided to rape and pillage, the only resistance will be the victims and the Geneva convention.
We need Anonymous to start producing Akumetsu masks and go on a Government Pig Slaying Raid. (Read the manga Akumetsu)
<.<! OMG and their weapons of choice can be exploding cloned sheep! SUPERSHEEP! http://dothackportal.com/forums/images/smilies2/eek.png
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